BIKE TOUR Thailand, 13 days
On Djoser's Southern Thailand Bike tour, you will visit Bangkok's Royal Palace and Wat Pra Keo Temple. Experience the vibrant trade in the floating market and sleeping on the River Kwai. In Chiang Mai you can see the many temples and stroll to the popular night market. We finish the tour off on the tropical island of Koh Samed. Djoser, has been a Thailand tour operator for over 15 years so we bring vast experience.
- Bangkok, bike tour''Bangkok by Night''
- Bangkok – Petchaburi – Cha-Am
- Cha-Am – Sam Roi Yot National Park
- Sam Roi Yot National Park
- Sam Roi Yot National Park - Chumpon
- Chumpon - Khao Sok
- Khao Sok .
- Khao Sok - Yao Noi Island
- Yao Noi eiland, Yao Yai Island
- Yao Noi eialand - Krabi - Ao Nang
- Ao Nang
- Ao Nang - Krabi - Bangkok . (program ends late evening)
Day by day
On the Road with Djoser
Djoser's active journeys offer an ideal balance of guidance and freedom. Our guide-assisted adventures cover the globe and feature wildlife, beautiful natural settings, historic sights and authentic cultural experiences. During Djoser travels, the daily schedule is not rigidly set.
The day to day descriptions describe the anticipated, or possible daily activities. Our travel days are obviously fixed, but each day the program may deviate depending on the preferences of the group, in consultation with the tour leader. The tour guide offers a program daily, with planned excursions. You are never obligated to participate. Those who desire more freedom may go out exploring or may dine on their own. Your tour leader can offer suggestions for safe explorations and fun restaurants. You will find that Djoser participants will take advantage of this flexibility. We believe a sense of discovery is an integral element of a great trip.
We offer the land program only. Below, you will find the day to day description days numbered to correspond with that of the Dutch participants (which includes their transit days from/to Amsterdam). This is so that when you are traveling and refer to this day to day description, all travelers will be “on the same page” or the same day number.
In southern Thailand, we go by bike along beautiful tropical beaches, azure blue sea and beautiful fishing villages. The cycling trip from Bangkok to the south includes jagged limestone rocks at Sam Roi Yot and Phang Nga Bay jutting straight out of the landscape or from the sea. Along the way you enjoy the delicious Asian cuisine and meet the friendly locals.
During Djoser bike tours we make bike trips from our lodgoes or we take a multi-day bike ride. Our itineraries are not rigidly set in stone. On rest days you can make extra bike rides or you may do other things on your own. The tour leader you can always offer tips and suggestions. You are not obligated to participate. Those who wish to explore independently have the freedom to do so. By the nature of our trips and local conditions there may be unexpected situations. Therefore it may be necessary to adjust a certain bike ride or activity.We travel in groups of 16 and up to 20 people.
Day 1Travel day for most participants
Day 2 arrival Bangkok bicycle tour "Bangkok by night (Land begins)
Day 3 Bangkok - Petchaburi - Cha-Am
We begin our Thailand bike tour in the capital Bangkok. Bangkok is a very special city with up to three remarkable entries in the Guinness Book of Records, namely the longest official name of a city (172 characters!), the highest average temperature and longest traffic jam ever (14 hours). You can find this city an interesting combination of East and West. There are more than 400 temples, many temples and markets where you can shop to your heart’s content. Bangkok has more than 8 million registered inhabitants, but the actual number is probably around 13 million. It is a very busy city with an area of approximately 974 square miles. In the evening we get on the bike for a Bangkok by night bike ride of about 9.3 miles. It is an unforgettable experience to see the city in motion during and after sunset.
In Petchaburi's we start with the first bike ride of our trip. This city is a cultural and historical center with impressive temples and stunning national park. The bike tour leads us after a journey of approximately 24.8 miles through rural area, past green paddy fields and swaying palm trees to Cha-Am. Cha-Am is a fairly new resort with beautiful sandy beaches. Here you will find mostly Thais who seek peace on the weekend. Cha-Am is still relatively unknown among Western tourists.
Sam Roi Yot National Park
Day 4 Cha-Am - Sam Roi Yot National Park
Day 5 Sam Roi Yot NP
Day 6 Sam Roi Yot National Park - Chumpon
Day 7 Chumpon - Khao Sok
The next day we take a trip of 37.2 miles to Pranburi. You can choose the distance of the journey. We cycle along the beach and through the hinterland passing pineapple plantations and small fishing villages. We spend the night on the outskirts of the Sam Roi Yot National Park. This park is named after "the mountain of 300 peaks”, a landscape with fantastically shaped limestone mountains. The area offers beautiful views of the coastline with quaint fishing villages. We have the whole day to explore this beautiful park by bike. The bike ride goes through the countryside along beaches, villages and caves. In a small fishing village, we take a boat to view one of the caves. The boat stops at a beautiful beach where water enthusiasts can swim. From this beach it is quite a climb to get to see some stunning stalactites. Later during the ride the more energetic travelers can climb the hill Khao Deang for beautiful views over the park. The view of course is the most beautiful from the top of one of the mountains. The cycling in this still lesser known piece of Thailand goes along quiet country roads and you will soon know the friendly Thai people who want to chat. In Chumpon, after a cycle of about 24.8 miles we stay in a hotel right on the azure sea. During our bike trip we see the sea and mountains to the right. In the evening you can enjoy the sun and the delicious food. This is a real holiday!
Yao Noi and Yao Yai moose, Ao Nang
Day 8 Khao Sok - Thong Nang Village Dom
Day 9 Dom Thong Nang Village - Yao Noi island
Day 10 Yao Noi island, Yao Yai Island
Day 11 Yao Noi Island - Krabi - Ao Nang
Day 12 Ao Nang
The accompanying bus drops us off the next day in Surat Thani. We get on the bike for a trip of about 21.7 miles from the Khao Sok national park. The park consists largely of tropical rainforests and some over 3,280 ft high mountain peaks with beautiful views. The park is a sanctuary for elephants, monkeys, bears, and lots of birds. There are also tigers, panthers and other felines.
The next day we sail along mangroves to the island Thung Nang Dam. We are welcomed by the Thai family where we stay the night and they also prepare our meals. Anyone who wants to can roll up their sleeves and help the population with the reforestation of mangroves. In the afternoon we take a boat trip to Kra, a small isolated island.
The boat takes us the next day to the pier where we cross by boat to the island of Khao Yao Noi, called 'Little Long Island. " The island lacks real roads. We cycle through fishing villages where we are greeted by the cheerful children. The bike ride of about 18.6 miles passes through rubber plantations and portions of jungle. The next day we cross to Khao Yao Yai, the larger neighboring island,or the "Big Long Island." Again we go biking without traffic through plantations, past farms and jungle. The bike ride of about 28 miles is on flat terrain. In a small local restaurant, you can enjoy a simple but delicious Thai lunch. At the end of the tour we cross by boat over to our accommodation at Khao Yao Noi.
Thailand Waterfall View Djoser
After our visit to the Koh Yao islands we cross by boat to the mainland. From the pier, the bus will take us to the beautiful beach. The bus will take us the next day to the pier where we cross by boat to the island of Khao Yao Yai.
Ao Nang you can relax from the special bike tour in recent weeks. Lovers can take a canoe trip through the mangroves, go diving or visit the closely spaced harbor town Krabi.
Day 13 Ao Nang - Krabi - Bangkok
Day 14 Bangkok
Day 15 Bangkok (land ends)
From Krabi we fly back to Bangkok, where you still have time to see some sights of the city and buy your last souvenirs. After a final delicious Thai meal our trip comes to an end.
Dates and prices
Departure dates 2020
|Land Begins||Land Ends||Price||Availability|
|Apr-20-20||May-03-20||$2,400||20 seats||book now >|
Conditions "Guaranteed leave"
Included in Thailand bike tour package: land program beginning and ending at hotels, hotel accommodation with breakfast, a night with locals including meals, bike rental, transport, excursions according to program, entrance Sam Roi Yot National Park, Dutch tour leader and local guide.
Excluded in our Thailand bike tour package: international flights from/to North America, travel insurance, other meals, entrance fees, optional excursions, gratuities, personal expenses.
Group trip dates denoted with the green "G" (Most Likely to GO)
The dates you see listed in our group tours that are marked with a green "G" are MOST LIKELY TO GO based on this trip's past booking history, for a similar date. Before booking your flights it is important that you check with us to see if the group has enough participants for the trip to GO. However, Djoser is not responsible for costs for flight changes or cancellations if a trip must be cancelled due to insufficient enrollment, which might include a booking cancellation after the trip has been deemed to have sufficient bookings for a "GO".
|Extension hotel city #1||Bangkok|
|Double room per person||$50|
|Extension hotel city #2||Ao Nang|
|Double room per person||$75|
|Estimated out-of-pocket, weekly||$180|
|Deposit due upon booking||$500|
|** Deposit based on 20% of total land price, or $500 minimum - non-refundable|
|* Balance due 60 days prior to departure.|
Accommodations & Meals
Accommodations – During our Thailand bike tour we stay in good hotels where the rooms have private shower / toilet and usually air conditioning, but sometimes a fan or blower. During this cycling tour we sleep many nights in hotels located on beautiful beaches. Some hotels also have a pool. We stay one of the nights in Kuraburi in a homestay, with the locals. During this night, all meals are included.
Some examples of our usual hotels (subject to change)
|Ao Nang Beach||Krabi Success|
|Yao Noi Island||Chukit Resort|
|Sam Roi Yod||Terra Selisa|
During the visit in the homestay there is no access to a private room. At Christmas and New Year's Eve a mandatory holiday dinner charge is passed along for guests regardless of whether or not participate in this dinner. The amount of this fee bin Bangkok is $75, - per person and Ao Nang $100 , per person.
Single room - Djoser is single friendly! If you are traveling solo, we will match you with a same-sex roommate. If we cannot match you, there will be no additional room charge. For a reasonable charge, you may request single accommodations, subject to availability. Just indicate this preference on your booking form. You will find pricing for single accommodations on "Dates & Prices" page.
Hotel extensions - It is always great to be well-rested when you begin a journey such as this. If you would like to book an extension hotel night upon arrival in the city where the land program begins, let us know on your booking form. You will find the prices for extension nights listed in the '"Dates & Prices" page. The cost of a hotel extension does not include transfers to or from the airports.
Meals - Breakfast during our Thailand bike tour are included in the fare. Other meals are not included during the trip so you are free to choose where, when and with whom you eat. During the visit to locals in Thong Nang Village Dom all meals are included.
The basis of the Thai meal is rice. Here you will find a wide variety of tasty meat and vegetable dishes, often sharply spiced or flavored with fresh coriander and ginger. On the coast, fresh fish is prepared. In the larger towns, there are also plenty of restaurants with western cuisine.
Flights & Transportation
Booking your international flight - We provide the land package and transportation within the program as described. We do not arrange international flights from or to the United States or Canada. The land program will begin approximately two hours after the arrival of the Netherlands (NL) participants who will be arriving from Amsterdam. The land program will end about 4 hours prior to their scheduled departure time, which allows for time to get to the airport. The proposed flights for the Dutch participants and the Land Begin and End times are listed below. They are subject to change based on flight delays or changes. We will keep you posted of any flight changes that we are aware of prior to the trip. When scheduling your flights, keep the following times in mind.
Dutch participants' proposed flights: (subject to change)
This is the most common flight for the Dutch participants, but that depends on departure date. Please verify with us before booking your own flights.
NL participants arrive: Bangkok 1:30 PM
NL participants depart: Bangkok 2:35 AM
Before you book your flight - To avoid flight change or cancellation costs get email confirmation from our office that the trip has enough participants to be a “GO”.
Verify the spelling of your name-within 24 hours - When you book your flights, double check your flight records to confirm that your name is spelled on your ticket exactly as it appears on your passport. Some companies (for example, ORBITZ) will only allow a 24 hour window to correct any errors without penalty. You may incur heavy fees for changes, forfeiture of your flight ticket, or even worse, you could be denied entry to a border upon arrival.
Send us a copy of your flight itinerary - We will forward to the tour leader so they will know when to expect you at the hotel and when you will be departing.
Keep in mind hotel extensions - If the Dutch travelers arrive early in the morning, we recommend that you arrange to fly in the day or night before so you will be meet the group. Some trips involve an immediate transfer from airport to the next town so make sure you will arrive before the others so you don’t miss the first meeting or transfer to the next location. We can arrange an extension hotel night for you. Prices for hotel extensions can be found in the "Dates & Prices" section
If the Dutch participants arrive in the late evening - Should they arrive very late in the evening, the group will have their first meeting in the morning in the hotel lobby. You can check in earlier and relax or explore on your own.
Airport transfer to/from hotel (not Included) - If you will be arriving and or departing on the same flight as the Dutch travelers let us know. Then you can join them on the bus for the group transfer at no additional charge. Notify us in advance so we can alert the tour leader. If you schedule your flight at the same time as theirs, or later, you can join them on the group transfer to the airport at no additional charge. Otherwise, you can take an authorized taxi to the first hotel on the list we have provided for you. Private airport transfers can be very costly . If your flight is delayed, they are difficult to reschedule or cancel. With a taxi, you are not charged for waiting time or cancellations.
Useful Links for booking your flights
Local transportation - During the tour we use a private bus, equipped with air and heating. We are free to stop for a photo or to stretch our legs.
Cycling - The trip includes the use of a good quality bike with multiple gears. . We cycle from 24.8 to 43.4 miles a day on flat to hilly terrain. We try to avoid the busy roads as much as possible. The bike ride is suitable for anyone with a normal to good condition.
Bus - We cover portions of the journey with our own, comfortable minibuses, which are air conditioned. For groups of 13 people we travel in three buses. The vans come with us and a few times drop us off at a specific point where we get on our bikes. At the end of the ride (if we did not cycle to our accommodation), the bus picks us up again. During stretches that we do not take on the bike, the bikes go with the buses.
A summary of all trip costs can be found on our 'Dates & Prices' page. Prices may fluctuate throughout the year depending on currency exchange, gas costs, etc.
Included in price of our Thailand bike tour package
- Land package (begins & ends at hotel)
- Domestic flight
- Hotel Accommodation with breakfast
- One night when locals including meals
- Bike rental
- Transportation to and from the beginning / end of the bike tours
- Bicycle tours and excursions according to program
- Entrance Sam Roi Yot National Park
- Tour guide from Holland (speaks Dutch & English)
- Local guide
When you book a trip
- 20% of minimum land package price (or minimum of $500) due upon booking to hold your place (See “Prices & Dates” section for deposit amount for your trip
- Balance is due 60 days prior to departure date
- Payments by charge card or check are accepted
While you are traveling
|Local Currency:||Thai baht|
|ATMS:||Almost everywhere in Thailand|
|Other Currency Accepted:||Euros or dollars|
|Credit cards:||Accepted in the big cities and in the more luxurious shops|
Tipping - It is customary to tip for services rendered. The tour leader will organize a tip jar at the beginning of the trip, from which tips to drivers, guides, hotel staff are paid. Depending on the size of the group, each participant will be asked to contribute $40 to $50. This does not include a tip for your tour leader. Tipping the tour leader is appreciated and the amount up to your discretion.
** You will find a list of all trip costs in the "Dates & Prices" section, including your estimated out of pocket costs.
Freedom and choice are important elements of a Djoser trip. In addition to scheduled group activities, wherever possible, you may decide which attractions you wish to visit, and with whom. Unless otherwise indicated, entrance fees are not included in the price, so you have the freedom to make your own choices. One person may prefer to stroll through the market in search of bargains, while someone else may want to relax by the pool, go to a museum, or take a bike ride. Join the guide or break off with others in the group to explore on foot or with the local transport. Some attractions should not be missed, or they are not easily accessible, or are en route to our next overnight location and are therefore built into the program. In the "Dates & Prices" section you will find the estimated out-of-pocket, weekly expenses that have calculated in typical entry fees in addition to meals and other costs.
When you book a trip we will provide you with more details about necessary documents. Passports should be current and valid for at least 6 months beyond your departure date. If a visa is required, you may need extra pages in your passport for your stamps. Check all visa requirements carefully and leave yourself plenty of time to send and receive documents before your trip.
Thailand tourist visa needed – Not for less than 30 days as of 11/10/14 Consulate link
Visa & Passport Expeditor – For an extra fee, you can hire an expediting service to process your visa application. They will look over your paperwork and they can offer a faster return of your visa or passport. We recommend TRAVISA.
Health Issues & Insurance
Health - Check for the Center for Disease Control – Travelers information for recommendations. Keep in mind that they may recommend an inoculation or medication such as malaria pills, which may be necessary for one specific part of a country but not another, or for a particular season. Shots are expensive. Make sure to get only what is needed. We recommend asking your doctor for a prescription to combat a more serious intestinal disorder.
When you book a trip we will provide you with information regarding the usual recommendations for the region we will visit. You will be responsible to check with your travel clinic or physician to review your plans and to find out the most up-to-date recommendations and needs for your particular situation. Plan to get your inoculations four to six weeks in advance of your trip. Some offices may need to preorder the medicines so call in advance. It is wise to pay careful attention to what you eat. Also, we recommend you bring medicines such as pain-killer and for remedy for intestinal disorders (such as Immodium) Bring a small first aid kit. Tweezers, band-aids, antiseptic cream, insect repellant, salt rehydration tablets. The tour leader will have a first aid kit.
Climate and altitude changes can sometimes cause illness. Be sure to drink plenty of water. Bottled water is readily available. Excessive alcohol intake contributes to dehydration and makes you more vulnerable to illness. Make sure that you get plenty of rest and enough food and drink during the trip.
Usual vaccinations & medications recommended for this trip:
vaccinations against DTP, typhoid and hepatitis and malaria tablets
How Strenuous Is this Trip? - The bike tours are suitable for anyone who in in good health, has a good condition, and bikes regularly. We have arranged the trips according to challenge level. This takes into account the heights to which we cycle, the distance that we cover and the duration of the cycling. This of course is only an estimate. Plus, your personal experience and other factors such as weather conditions and your physical condition will determine your own difficulty levels.
The trips cover flat to hilly terrain. When traveling on steep mountain terrain, typically the bus drops us at the top and then we descend by bike . Those up to the challenge may ascend on their own. On each bike journey a bus accompanies us, so you can forego any ride. On many trips depending on the wishes of the group, we can shorten or lengthen the bike rides on the spot.
We bike 24.8 to 43.4 miles a day on flat to hilly terrain. We try to avoid the busy roads as much as possible and cycle mostly on rural roads. The bike ride is suitable for anyone with a normal to good condition.
Be Prepared! - Make sure you are well prepared to travel. Spend the months leading up to your trip working out and getting preapred for your bike trip. This will help you to get the most enjoyment from your journey.
The bike tours are suitable for anyone who in in good health, has a good condition, and bikes regularly. We have arranged the trips according to challenge level. This takes into account the heights to which we cycle, the distance that we cover and the duration of the cycling. This of course is only an estimate. Plus, your personal experience and other factors such as weather conditions and your physical condition will determine your own difficulty levels.
The trips include both flat and hilly terrain. On the steeper mountain inclines, typically the bus drops us at the top and then we descend by bike . Those up to the challenge may ascend on their own. On each bike journey a bus accompanies us, so you can forego any ride. On many trips we can shorten or lengthen the ride depending on the wishes of the group, on the spot .
Lowest point ride: 29.5 feet
Highest point ride: 6,207 feet
Maximum rise: 350 feet
fall Maximum: 3,431 feet
Total miles cycling: 186.4 miles
Average miles cycling: 28 miles
For more information about the distance, cycle length and height per day, we refer you to the day-to-day description of this route.
TRAVEL INSURANCE IS REQUIRED FOR THIS TRIP.
Insurance - For peace of mind, we recommend that you procure travel insurance. In the event of an illness or injury, an emergency evacuation can be incredibly expensive and you would want access to the best possible facility. Also, lost baggage or missed flights can mean added expenses. Even events at home may prevent you from taking a trip, such as a lost job or ailing family member. It is important to get travel insurance immediately after booking. Most companies have a brief window (within 10 days of booking) for coverage for a preexisting condition. You will be asked to provide us with travel insurance contact information before your departure.
You are free to choose your own provider. Over the years, we have recommended TRAVELEX. They offer a variety of plans and most importantly, they are responsive. Should you choose to go with TRAVELEX, you will contact them directly and the cost of your coverage will depend on the plan you choose. The cost will be based over the total cost of your trip and flights, and the amount is also subject to your age. Ask about the TRAVEL PLUS plan and the more economical TRAVEL LITE plan. * Arrange for insurance immediately after booking your trip so that you are covered for any pre-existing situation. TRAVELEX 1-800-228-9792
Minimum group size: 10
Maximum group size: 20
What to expect when traveling with an international group – Djoser, Inc. (the United States office) has been a Thailand tour operator for over 15 years. Djoser, B.V. (the Netherlands office) has been a Thailand tour operator for over 25 years. So together we bring vast experience. Most of our group trips are arranged in cooperation with Djoser, B.V. in the Netherlands. Because they cater to the voracious travel appetites of the Dutch, we can offer a vast number of programs around the world with hard-to-find itineraries, with numerous departure dates.
Djoser travelers are active, enthusiastic travelers of all ages. You will find couples and singles on our trips. Join our international groups with travelers from the Netherlands, Belgium and North America. There are rarely more four North Americans per group. The international make-up of our groups is the attraction for many regular and this adds another cultural element to the trip. Feel free to call us if you wish to know the demographic make-up of a particular trip (number of singles and age range.
You will find that almost all of your fellow travelers have an excellent command of English and most are very willing to socialize. It’s a great idea to extend an invitation to a few travel mates for coffee or a drink early in the trip. They will appreciate your effort and this is a great way to break the ice. It will be easier for them to test out their English skills in a quiet, one-on-one setting. Group members tend to warm up to one another in a day or two. As with every tour group, compatibility has most to do with individual personalities.
The Dutch are experienced and hearty travelers. We attract travelers of all ages and we enjoy the mix! You will find our participants welcome opportunities for independent explorations in addition to group activities. No matter their age, Djoser travelers expect, and are up to lots of walking, hiking, biking, or whatever comes our way. The Dutch and Belgian travelers will fly as a group from Amsterdam. Unless otherwise indicated, you will meet the group and tour leader at the hotel where you will begin the land program with the group.
Tour Leaders & Support Staff
This trip is accompanied by a Dutch guide who speaks Dutch and English. The tour guide provides practical information about the bike ride, the route and the different activities during rest days. In addition, the tour leader tells something about daily life and the different habits of the country. However, the tour guide is not a lecturer. For any questions, comments or concerns you can always contact the tour leader. The tour guides are enthusiastic cyclists and do everything to make a success of your cycling trip. When cycling trip in southern Thailand a local bike guide also assists. He knows his country well and also provides for maintenance of the bicycles
Our experienced land representatives are situated in the destination country you will visit. We work closely with them and they function as the liaison between our office, the guide, drivers and hotels. They are also available in the case of an emergency and their number will be provided on your emergency contact list.
Climate & Geography
Because Sri Lanka is close to the equator, the temperature varied little between winter and summer in the lower areas. Because of the high altitude cools in the central highlands, in the places like Kandy and Nuwara Eliya, the evenings are cool, even in the summer. While traveling the daytime temperatures can range from eg 51.8 ° to 95° Farenheit, respectively, Nuwara Eliya and Colombo. Sri Lanka has two rainy seasons. In the south and west is the period from May to September. From October to January it rains in the north and east. The downpours are short but powerful and usually fall at the end of the day. This freshens the air and creates the beautiful flora. It never rains all day. Sri Lanka experiences tropical downpours quickly interspersed with beautiful weather. The sea temperature is always pleasant, approximately 80 ° F.
Because of the altitude difference found on the island of Sri Lanka, many different species of plants and animals live here. Along the coast there are tropical rainforests and in the north you will find savannahs, in the central highlands, walk on moorland, reminiscent of the English moors.
Our trips are organized with weather conditions in mind. On our website, we will provide you with a weather summary of the region: Check temperature and rainfall for specific cities on your trip, during your month of travel at worldweather.org
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